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Route Demand
#1
Hi,

What does route demand 2 or 10 means? Its becoming quite difficult to get passengers, even on ATR 42-300!

In India, route demands don't seem to be exceeding 10 on any route.. Not even DEL-BOM, which in real world has more than 10 A320s flying on either side in every 3 hours.. Please look into it
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#2
I think that, in addition to the "Major Destinations" data, there needs to be a basic level of demand that is auto-generated based on city size, geographical proximity, political factors (such as good diplomatic relations etc.) and economic factors. Perhaps we can designate certain cities as industry hotspots (like Houston or Stavanger for oil, Detroit and Nagoya for automobile, Raleigh and Hyderabad for pharmaceuticals, San Jose and Bangalore for IT etc.), and have a demand multiplier for routes linking such cities?

There is a huge lack of demand data in the game, which is understandable as real-life demand data may be hard to obtain and compile, and in many cases, costs money to obtain. As such, I don't think it should be the only source of demand in the game. It's unrealistic that there's almost zero demand between Colombo and Seoul for example, when there's actually a direct flight between the two.
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#3
(08-07-2016, 03:23 PM)n802de Wrote: I think that, in addition to the "Major Destinations" data, there needs to be a basic level of demand that is auto-generated based on city size, geographical proximity, political factors (such as good diplomatic relations etc.) and economic factors. Perhaps we can designate certain cities as industry hotspots (like Houston or Stavanger for oil, Detroit and Nagoya for automobile, Raleigh and Hyderabad for pharmaceuticals, San Jose and Bangalore for IT etc.), and have a demand multiplier for routes linking such cities?

There is a huge lack of demand data in the game, which is understandable as real-life demand data may be hard to obtain and compile, and in many cases, costs money to obtain. As such, I don't think it should be the only source of demand in the game. It's unrealistic that there's almost zero demand between Colombo and Seoul for example, when there's actually a direct flight between the two.

Hmm right, it is a bit painful that there is no automatic demand calculation system, but I think that it is instead a good way to bring more realism into the game.. Like, in some online airline games, I used to operate a B747 between Karachi (Pakistan) and Delhi, when in real life there is actually only one ATR 42 flying between the two cities, because of very strained ties..

And yes, obtaining data is a bit difficult, but it's now quite fun for me to discover the various and no. of flight flying between 2 or more cities.. Like, I am using http://www.cleartrip.com for making india_stats.xml, and it was quite amazing to know that there are 67 daily non stop flights between Delhi and Mumbai! I think its a difficult and fun task..
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#4
I know it's fun and difficult. I have added historical data for europe's largest airport (next release there will be 15 airports included) from 1946 until the present day. This includes all runways that an airport ever had, all terminals it had, all terminal expansions etc etc.

It is very interesting as you learn a lot from it. But it can be very hard sometimes when you want to achieve the same amount of detail everywhere and you don't always find that information easily. 

I really like it that other players as well, are willing to contribute to the game!

Nick
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#5
I think certain cities need certain demand factors. Then there is no need for demand data which I think slows down the game. Things like business, tourism, and hubs should in theory increase the demand to a city.
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#6
What happenned with the old system of route demand calculation?

I always play with All Nippon Airways(The base is Narita, Tokyo) and in the 0.5.0 version, NRT-CTS has a demand of 584 passengers but in 0.5.1 version there are only 8 passengers demand in the same route.
In a test with a Boeing 737-700 with the same configuration in one month on 0.5.0 my company has a filling degree of 64.48% (which is realistic) against 0.68% of 0.5.1.

Please, pjank42, can you tell me why it happenned?
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#7
It is actually because we have cleaned the major destinations files and some how also removed the ones for Japan. I will include it again
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#8
(08-26-2016, 09:45 AM)pjank42 Wrote: It is actually because we have cleaned the major destinations files and some how also removed the ones for Japan. I will include it again

Thank's for the answer pjank42, in Brazil i have the same problem, so probably the Brazil files have been removed too.
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#9
I am back! I havent downloaded yet the 5.1 version since there are some glithes and unplayable. Allow me to check again the Major Destination and I will update again with new data. @pjank42 I will email to you the data the soonest start with Japan data.
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#10
(08-30-2016, 08:56 AM)blueboi Wrote: I am back! I havent downloaded yet the 5.1 version since there are some glithes and unplayable. Allow me to check again the Major Destination and I will update again with new data. @pjank42 I will email to you the data the soonest start with Japan data.

Welcome back and just sent it to me :-)
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