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Loans - free endless money? - Anjali - 05-20-2019
version: Tap 2 V13 (latest)
1st issue Loans:
it seems you can take endless ammount of loans (billions of $ with ne real assets to vouch for it
also possible to buy all the planes you want ... just order 100 planes and take the 5% interest loan for full ammount of purchase
as you never pay it back nor pay interest but the remaining month and remaining loan are dropping every month
though the statistics arent clear but 5 billion loans installment and interest monthly would certainly exceed 6 million monthly profit on routes, but it doesnt so its certainly not paid but you still gonna be debt free after 20 years having the 50 planes gifted to you for free
2nd issue taxes:
taxes .. at the end of the year you get a mail telling you whats your profit and whats you taxes to pay....
though again due to only monthly stats its not possible to check if it is correct but the tax ammount mentioned in the mail (i.e 2.0120.000 $) is not matching the deducted 2.780.000 $ i actually got deducted. this happens every year that those amounts aint matching.
3rd issue Sharemarket / takeovers:
as mentioned in another post is the shares market + take over ( merger/subsidary )
100 shares a 8$ = 800$ value for an airline with 100+ planes worth more then a billion $ seems to be a real bargain.
as airlines are usually major share companies worth hundreds of millions if not billions, maybe theres a possibility to create 1.000.000 shares for each airline at gamestart and set the share price to value of company (i.e. a company that is worth 50.000.000 $ (assets less loans) would have a 50$ share price by 1 million shares) else you can just take out easily a 1 billion $ airline at a purchase price of 800 $ (100 shares a 8$)
and currently the takeover is end of game anyway as merging / taking over as a subsidiary company will crash the game.
you can delete routes but if you check statisitics or try to access planes of the sub / or merged company owned planes the game stops to respond and if it was saved after the merger / takeover as a sub the save game cant be reloaded.
RE: Loans - free endless money? - Tjoeker - 05-20-2019
Thanks for reporting.
Economics are planned for v2.15. Though, I was unaware it was this broken @ issue 1 and 2.
We'll make sure this is fixed for 2.14.
The overtaking issue should already be fixed for v2.14.
RE: Loans - free endless money? - Anjali - 05-20-2019
i can give the error logs for game crash after merger , after taking over as subsidiary,
and also the error log for a game saved right after the merger if it helps to track down the error
i ve also tried around and it seems to be the routes ... if game is paused before merger and stays paused until all routes of the merged company are deleted (routes created yourself are fine and can be kept) the game does not crash and works fine
error log for merger completed, game saved. load saved game
Game time: 01.01.0001 00:00:00
Version: Version 2.13 Final (Alpha)
20.05.2019: 22:48 System.Data.SQLite.SQLiteException (0x80004005): SQL logic error
no such table: AirportProfile
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RE: Loans - free endless money? - Tjoeker - 05-21-2019
I did some testing on the taxes, and the values should be matching.
What you probably had were some other bills that were due, like
slots, airliner leases, maintenance, wages, ...